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Live testing of a kitchen for Radon before Granite is install

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Old 09-19-2008, 09:24 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Re: Live testing of a kitchen for Radon before Granite is install

Why is my business in that post as a sponsor? I am a member of NSRA - not a sponser. NSRA has little to no financial backing by anybody other than the support of its members and the classes.
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Re: Live testing of a kitchen for Radon before Granite is install

dude, read your links again.
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Re: Live testing of a kitchen for Radon before Granite is install

Today we will be removing the second test kit just to get a reading.
The device will be replaced in a few hours.

Al due to the fact that you can edit your posts for the next few days, I will lower the time limit so that I can respond to you faster without giving you a chance to edit your post. see you in a few hours. Al, you need to watch who you point a finger at and who or what you call a lie, I have thick skin and I will not let you get under it. I will stay focused on the task- you are a side note, but I still feel the need to help you out.
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Re: Live testing of a kitchen for Radon before Granite is install

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Why is my business in that post as a sponsor? I am a member of NSRA - not a sponser. NSRA has little to no financial backing by anybody other than the support of its members and the classes.

Got me, Topshop, unless you donated the fabrication for that top and got listed as a sponsor. I just used the quote button on Huligar's post.

Or Huligar is claiming sponsors when they don't exist. I really don't know.
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Today we will be removing the second test kit just to get a reading.
The device will be replace in a few hours.

Al do to the fact that you can edit your post for the next few days, I will lower the time limit so that I can respond to you faster with out given you a chance to edit your post. see you in a few hours. Al you need to watch who you point a finger at and who or what you call a lie, I have tick skin and I will not let you get under it. I will stay focused on the task you are a side note, but I still feel the need to help you out.

Huligar, I have no intention of editing my post as it is the truth. And I am not calliing you a liar on these two points as it is obvious you are a liar from the facts we both presented.

I still hold out the possiblity that you get confused when talking to people, and if that is the case you have this opportunity to retract your claims. I would have no problem going back, if I can, and cleaning up this entire episode once if you admit that you were confused and got the facts wrong.

If you are that easily confused though, one must wonder if you are capable of running a complicated test like this.


Brodhead just emailed me from his phone. Here is the entire email I sent and his reply.
[color="Red"]
Hi Bill,

Sara suggested that I forward this to you. No doubt you will
remember meeting Huligar at the Radon conference but his quote saying you
found no significant Radon build up was possible from granite needs
addressing.

As you can see, the guy has an axe to grind with me, and wants to
keep the myth that granite is 100% safe. I plan on addressing the guy on
his home forum, but it would help if I could privately send your email
address to one or two of the more rational posters on that forum so
they could verify your findings on the Four Seasons granite.

I plan on posting a link to your AARST papers, but if you would
return a couple of emails it would help me out tremendously in setting the
record straight.

Is this silly or what?

Thanks,

Al [/COLOR

And Bill Brodhead's response :

Al
I went looking for you on wed but you had already left. Sorry about
that. These meetings are exhausting for me.
I'm still in Nevada & Utah seeing Byrce Canyon & Zion with no internet
but my phone. I will be glad to go over everything I know. When I get
a chance.
Bill



Huligar, after Bill gets back to Pennslyvania, I am going to send Bill's email address to at least two of your members and ask them to email Bill for the details on this business of Huligar claiming Bill said that Radon was not a problem. You have a bit of time to straighten this out on your own, after that, your crediblity will be shot. People will have no recourse but to believe you to be a liar or unable to understand what people tell you.

Either way, few will trust you after this if you don't admit what you posted was wrong. That will blow any credibility in your test as well. I'd hate to see that happen cause you have proven that granite can raise a kitchen's Radon levels.
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Re: Live testing of a kitchen for Radon before Granite is install

OH MY!
Al, the NSRA is sponsored by its members and the donations to this site.
As Dave mention he donated his shop and time for the class which in returned created revenue which pays for all the testing and every thing else that we do.

Now that you know how we are founded, how are you founded Al?
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Re: Live testing of a kitchen for Radon before Granite is install

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Huligar,
you claim I am lying about something but provide no truth.

I say you are lying about two things, that I don't know Stan Liebert and that the Radon conference said that Radon was not an issue. Specifically, you claimed that Brodhead said there were no concerns with Radon from granite. I provided links to his study and you still continue to lie about it. Here it is again.

Brodhead's study says granite poses a Radon hazard.

And you saw the booth with Brodheads graphs, data, and calculations posted where he found 3 pCi/L of Radon from the Four Seasons (FS in the study) granite.


Here is Dr. Kitto's older paper, not exactly what he gave because all the new info wasn't in this paper, but he covered the measurement methods and reported that some granites can raise a homes Radon level more than 4 pCi/L
Kitto says Radon can come from granite in serious amounts

Dude, you are busted. You got caught lying about two major things and everyone knows it now.

How can anyone ever trust you again?
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Re: Live testing of a kitchen for Radon before Granite is install

sorry Al, but no axe what so ever do to the fact that no matter which way this goes we will still have stone to work on. When Bill gets back on Monday I hope he does point out how you mi understood his work.
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Re: Live testing of a kitchen for Radon before Granite is install

I pay for everything out of my pocket Huligar. The only donated money was for the meter purchases and that was from SSA members, and every last one of us also sells granite as well as quartz, laminate, and solid surface.

And it isn't me that is asking why sponsorship was claimed. I just offered an excuse for you.
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