Live testing of a kitchen for Radon before Granite is install - Page 3

Topshop · 09-09-2008, 01:09 PM

Jo, I think you mean Carbon Monoxide (CO). It is to be sure your furnace or gas hot water heater is working O.K. and not pumping its exhaust into your apartment.

Huligar · 09-09-2008, 01:13 PM

Thanks Top, you are correct.

GYANNI · 09-09-2008, 05:47 PM

When the results will come out?

Al Gerhart · 09-10-2008, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Huligar

Welcome back Al.
As you can see the project did not die just because you refuse to give me the information on your source for hot slabs. You were invited to come to NY to fine a hot slab but you ran away. We knew you need a reason to claim that the slabs were not hot in the first place so we did take some real nice images that show not only the level but also the settings.

Huligar, everyone knows better. Both Cheesdog and Hoboal were sent the PA slab yard dealers info. Those guys are okay, you on the other hand I would prefer not to be associated with.

I don't know that exact meter, but it looks like it is set on X10, with around 440 or 470 showing on the scale, which would mean 4,400 to 4,700 cpm. Average background in our area is 60 cpm, so you have between 73 and 78 times background radiation which is medium hot, but not a bad find. Our record find was 8,000 cpm, but one was found in california in a home, at around 13,000 cpm.
Unlike some people, we do not claim to know what the readings are, but we have been in contact with those that do, and every thing that we do is closely looked at by the people that know what they are doing..

Once our testing is over, we will invite anyone that wants to come to NY to double check the readings to do so. So Al, before you run and say that the test was not real, go buy a ticket to NY and bring your own tools.

No, Huligar, your slab is not too bad. The problem is that you don't have the credibility to do the testing, after all an open window or door will keep the Radon levels low. After posting the silly article all over the internet, the one that quoted the MIA's expert saying there was only .85 of a decay per year from a granite countertop, who in their right mind would trust the results? By the way, you seem to be getting 4,700 decays per minute about 24,703,000,000 per year or about 28 billion times what "Dr." Langmuir said was possible. Do you now understand why I said your article was complete B.S.?

As soon as I catch up with all that is going on I will post the images of the stone, Name, and readings. Until then keep your posts short and sweet. This is not a platform for your ramblings in an attempt to turn people off from the truth. By the way, the restoration guys win- no matter the results of this test.

I think you are doing good with this. This type of slab has already been tested by three PhD.'s from my samples alone. With your meter reading, we can coorelate your Radon results with what the professors got in their lab equipment. If it comes up low, you have a very leaky apartment or the result was tampered with.

So I keep waiting for the apology for saying that there were no hot slabs. When ever you are ready.

Al Gerhart · 09-10-2008, 01:48 AM

By the way, what is the square footage of the apartment and the square footage of the countertop?

realgranitetops · 09-10-2008, 09:32 AM

GURU AL...LMAO what aren't people supposed to OPEN doors and windows in their homes..? LMAO what are we to live in BOXES with no doors or windows..??LMAO

QOUTE by AL
"The problem is that you don't have the credibility to do the testing, after all an open window or door will keep the Radon levels low."

QUOTE by AL
By the way, what is the square footage of the apartment and the square footage of the countertop?

AGAIN do we have to live in a BOX..??? LMAO most of us do NOT , we have homes with LARGE rooms that have windows and doors...LMAO

YOU ARE A JOKE !!!!!!

Huligar · 09-10-2008, 12:41 PM

Guys, do not let Al get under your skin. We already know this is how he works and people just get piss and stop reading.

We should have the results soon; we will send an email to all that is on the forum of the date and time that we are going to open/review the information live on the net.

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Both Cheesdog and Hoboal were sent the PA slab yard dealers info

I am not chessdog or Hoboal so how can you say you sent it to me. When I asked you for the information, I asked you on a post where the world to see. When you ask me for my information so you can pass to you vendor I place it in the same post that it was ask so the world can see that in fact I gave you all that you ask for, but never once did you ever give me any information, In fact you wrote in the post that you would pm who wants it but you will not send it to me are something like that, I was to busy ROTFL at you.

Al no windows were left open because if they did you would have seen a draft and the test kits would have been moving, this was an other reason we did not turn on the AC simply because it moved the kits.

Size of my place, I have to get back to you on that one.

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you don't have the credibility to do the testing, after all an open window or door will keep the Radon levels low.

So are you saying that a person that have a home that may have a home where the kitchen leads to the dinning room that leads to the foyer, that leads upstairs do not have to worry about radon levels do to the fact that they have a flow of air? If they open the door more than once a day the levels if any will drop? Please make me understand.

Credibility, have you read your little blog that is anti stone? You should be the last person to ask about credibility, even your presents here and your tone speaks to your credibility.

Al, let me explain some thing to you than seems only you do not understand. I would like noting more than for this test to show that granite gives off radon in the home. This would mean one more service for us to offer and make a pretty penny. We are the fix it guys, what ever is wrong with granite we find a way to fix it we profit off of others mistake. We point out what is wrong with stone, and than fix it.

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one was found in California in a home, at around 13,000 cpm

Al so far all we have ever gotten from you is some text that you type up, were is the proof that you all found this hot stone. It took what seems forever to find what we have.

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I don't know that exact meter, but it looks like it is set on X10, with around 440 or 470 showing on the scale, which would mean 4,400 to 4,700 cpm. Average background in our area is 60 cpm, so you have between 73 and 78 times background radiation which is medium hot, but not a bad find. Our record find was 8,000 cpm, but one was found in California in a home, at around 13,000 cpm.

Wow you realy know your stuff if you can get all that from one image, so if you can do that we now know that someone else that do this type of work and deal with these tooling can do the same and you and other should have no problems with the evaluations?

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This type of slab has already been tested by three PhD.'s from my samples alone. With your meter reading, we can coorelate your Radon results with what the professors got in their lab equipment.

Al, please tell us who are these three PhD.'s.
We would like to send them samples of our own just for their input.
I hope this is not like the time you said you turn away 10K in slabs because the reading was too high but yet could not put us in contact with the vendor so that we could but the slabs that you turn down.

Al, you still did not say what you are going to do if this test shows that even if you place the hottest slab with as many hot spots as we have has little no change in the home.

Al, I think you may be able to answer this question for me, how many test samples do you all have? Every sample I see pop up look like the same one, same color, Patten, and size. This is very odd to me seem that no two stones are the same.

rockwell · 09-10-2008, 06:01 PM

LOL, you can't use this, you can't eat that, you shouldn't do this, because it'll kill you. What's the point of living again?

Topshop · 09-10-2008, 08:55 PM

We are all here to be tortured by marketing bull shit.

Huligar · 09-10-2008, 11:13 PM

Al, I have seen you have been on a few times for they day, but yet you have not tell me where I can to whom I can send the samples. Al I for one would like for all of us to be on the same page, after all we all want the same thing; which is the truth and just not to sell people stuff, right Al?

I have learn today that one of the guys you deal with is right here in NY. Would you ask him to come here to the Bronx, test the granite seal all the windows and than when we leave, seal the door. This way when we come back two days later he can verify that the doors and windows were seal. this way you can not say it was tampered with.

Al, this kitchen is a test kitchen and we welcome anyone with an interest to come and run test, as long as they understand that it will be on the net for all to see as we are doing it live. we are here to allay any of your concerns.