Live testing of a kitchen for Radon before Granite is install

[hoboal]

RGT or anybody else , Here the link of becoming a core member. I'm sure Jo can explain exactly where your donations and annual membership fee's goes to keep the NSRA up and running.

[Huligar]

Ever since we start running this test people have been hacking our little forum as well as my personal web site that is on two separate servers.

Has any one seen Al around? I need some help to improve the testing. The more holes he finds the better we could refine the testing. This started out as a very simply non scientific experiment, now we have so many requests, even the science guys can you use the information to prove or disprove whether granite can kill you.

[Topshop]

drinkclean.com - I love that bit.

[Al Gerhart]

Huligar,

You don't understand half of what is said to you or what you read on this subject. Dr. Kitto has a paper on the AARST web site that refutes what you are claiming. In that study, he says that most granites will raise a home less than 1 pCi/L, but that there are cases exceeding 4 pCI/L. He also gave the presentation where he found as much as 24 pCi/L of Radon from the Four Seasons granite samples.

For you to claim he said otherwise is a complete lie.

Yeah, the Gamma comes form Uranium, Thorium and the other elements, what is you point? How is this news to anyone but yourself.

And Huligar, Stan sent me an email regarding some of your wilder claims. He didn't disowned anyone, you were just too dense to understand what he said.


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Sara,

Naturally he got the 10, he just forgot it was 10% of 2000 or 200
types.

But our meeting is not going to change the facts. High Radon and
Radiation
in some granites that is the message, please test.

Stan


Seems like Huligar just doesn't have enough brains to understand a simple conversation. But to start calling others names because he is too simple to understand is what I would call trash.

How interesting that you are now claiming that I am part of the problem after dragging the stone industry by the throut into the daylight on this issue. Seems most of the guys here on the NSRA were doing their best to stop me, plastering a really ignorant article in a few hundred places on the internet. Now you want to knock our fabricaton despite ever seeing any of our work?

HoboAl,
if you are going to defend Huligar despite him being outed as complete liar, well I would say that that puts you in the same catagory. I offered to send you plenty of emails proving that Huligar lied about Stan, didn't hear from you, no private messages, so I guess you took me at my word. Besides, anyone can read the AARST convention studies and figure out that Huligar has been lying since he got back.

And for the last time, Huligar, I didn't come to New York because of your lies, but I did prove to you that there were hot slabs and I provided two of your members, Hobo AL and Cheesedog, with the phone number and name of a guy that had an entire bundle of hot slabs waiting for you. And I don't have to discredit you, Huligar, you have done an excellent job for yourself.

But the media will see you guys for what you are. Associating with know liars tends to rub off.

[GYANNI]

And guys, don't forget that when you promote granite you support terrorism! You all will end up in Guantanamo with a lung cancer!

[Huligar]

Al, please. You are so full of it that is no longer funny. Please allow me to sure you how much of a dumb a$$ you are. First off, your so called best friend Stan disowned you, which shows that people do not want to associate with liars because it tends to rub off.

At no time did I ever mention Kitto, but at this time you feel he or his paper will serve you. The truth of this matter, Dr. Kitto at the AARST said that he needs about six months to come to a conclusion. So if he still needs time to work with the data that he has, what makes you smarter than him.

Look Al, Linda Kincaid, Bob Shannon, Daniel Steck, Ernest Chiodo, Stanley Liebert, W.J. Llope and others think that you are full of it. You are like the new kid in school who is running around hoping the cool kids would like him, while they send you out to do the grunt work and laugh behind your back. You are an old man, the young cute cheerleader is not going to take pity on you.

Above you just named two people that you gave information to, none of which was me. You can ask both if they ever handed off any type of information to me.

Al, read the study, everyone but you says they need more time to do more testing; and yes you are part of the problem, all you want to do is sell your meters. I must admit the pm1703M is a great tool to find what you all call "hot spots". I never understood why they had to come to your shop first. Too bad you can not find them on ebay anymore.

Posting what looks like a email to Sara has no weight seeing that you have made so many claims to know people that you do not. By the way, we/I never told anyone what the numbers mean, so for you or Stan to say I messed up 10 for 10% is way off, and that is saying that the labs that sent back the results do not know what they are doing, or how to read the meters. That is kind of bold, but could they have been speaking of the numbers that you post? That make more sense to me.

Al, you can not kill the testing with your verbal diarrhea or your lack of understanding of things that do not support your agenda. You should spend more time getting better at working with Natural stone so the guys down the street could have some competition.

Rather than working together, you'd rather sling what you think is mud just because you already know that you were wrong from day one.

[Huligar]

GYANNI, can you please explain your last post?

[GYANNI]

Jo, there is a new proof on Youtube. I must thank the Nobel Prize Scientist that made the video for saving our life.
Four season granite that glows in the dark ....with a black light.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujJC07B9Nz4[/media]
If you have just a little background in physic you know what it means. It means that the few white hairs on my a$$ will glow in the dark with a black light, so I must have a radioactive a$$! I'll test my a$$ for radon with a live camera.

[GYANNI]

Jo don't act like you don't know. YOU, ME YOUR FRIENDS, MOST OF OUR CUSTOMERS ARE SUPPORTING TERRORISM!
"Strangely enough, there is even a terrorist connection with the granite industry.
Osama Bin Laden's family have extensive holdings in the granite industry, a fact
that many in the granite industry would prefer to remain unknown. Perhaps it
takes someone with connections to keep quarries operational in some of the
war torn countries. I know that your average American consumer would prefer
to know if their hard earned money might become available to terror groups or
those funding road side bombs in Iraq".
It comes from Solid Surface Alliance, so it must be true.

[Huligar]

Oh, man. I must get me one of those lights, that looks so cool.
terrorist, Where that blog said we support terrorist?