| | | Consumer Help Discuss, White Thesos at Consumer & Non-registered Lounge forum; I was at an exibition and at one of the stall which was exibiting stone care chemicals especially for white ... |
02-18-2008, 09:34 AM
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| White Thesos I was at an exibition and at one of the stall which was exibiting stone care chemicals especially for white marble.
The gentleman in charge showed me one sample of white thesos where he had applied his chemical, which was milky white in appearence and he told me that if this chemical is used on white thesos the natural fichers which turn black after the final polishing will remain white and also the chemical will penetrate 6mm fro the surface,it is really difficult for me to digest that a chemical can make a marble look whiter and remove all the natural colour from the same.Any Idea what he must be using he refused to give any technical specification of his product.  |  |  |  | | Marble | MARBLE: CHARACTERISTICS
This standard includes general information on the characteristics
and common uses of marble and identifies typical problems
associated with the material.
INTRODUCTION
Marble is an extremely hard, metamorphic stone composed of calcite
(CaCO3). It is formed as a result of the recrystallization of
limestone under the intense pressure and heat of geologic
processes. The effect of this process is the creation of a stone
with a very tight crystalline structure and small but definite
porosity. Because of its structure, marble can take a very high
polish and is a very popular decorative stone for architectural and
sculptural uses. The limited porosity of marble, especially
polished marble, makes it less vulnerable to the leaching effects
of water. Calcium carbonate, however, of which marble is composed,
is highly susceptible to attack by acidic agents. Marble is
readily dissolved by acids, even very dilute acids, however the
actual results of acidic exposure will vary with the nature of the
acid. Chlorides, nitrates, sulfates and other chemical compounds
react differently with marble and produce various by-products,
which have a wide range of solubility and impact on the durability
of marble. For this reason, it is always important to determine
the exact type of pollutants causing marble deterioration.
Marble itself can be of two types, one composed of calcite and the
other of dolomite. Dolomitic marble is much more resistant to acid
attack than calcite marble. The color of marble ranges from the
brilliant white of calcite to black, including blue-gray, red,
yellow and green, depending upon the mineral composition.
TYPICAL USES
Marble has many decorative and structural uses. It is used for
outdoor sculpture as well as for sculpture bases; in architecture
it is used in exterior walls and veneers, flooring, decorative
features, stairways and walkways. The way in which the stone is
used may be a factor in limiting or controlling the severity of
exposure. The use or function of the marble may also affect the
feasibility of applying certain treatments, but type of use is not
the primary factor in the major types of deterioration and damage
to which marble is susceptible. | |  |  |  |  | |
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02-18-2008, 11:06 AM
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| Re: White Thesos Do you have a name of the chemical or company that made this claim??
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02-18-2008, 11:23 AM
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| Re: White Thesos by law he needs to provide an MSDS.. would love to see one than I can tell ya.
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02-18-2008, 10:28 PM
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| Re: White Thesos im calling shennanigans on this. hes going to sell his product without any legal technical data? 6mm from the surface? i honestly doubt this guy is for real. |
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02-18-2008, 10:36 PM
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| Re: White Thesos let see if Rupen can tract the sell down so that we may get more information.
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02-19-2008, 06:32 AM
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| Re: White Thesos The company is based in Bangalore India I do not think it is necassary to give MSDS over here you may check there site HITEK |
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02-22-2008, 02:01 AM
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| Re: White Thesos If it's the Marble Wonder that you are talking about, it looks like a densifier. A Lithium Silicate molecule comes in a milky white bottle. It penetrates into the floor and reacts with the lime and calcium in the surface. We use a similiar product on concrete.
By the way, did you notice from their web site that for Thasos White you need 140 - 150 liters per 1000 square feet. That's insane!  |  |  |  | | Marble | MARBLE: CHARACTERISTICS
This standard includes general information on the characteristics
and common uses of marble and identifies typical problems
associated with the material.
INTRODUCTION
Marble is an extremely hard, metamorphic stone composed of calcite
(CaCO3). It is formed as a result of the recrystallization of
limestone under the intense pressure and heat of geologic
processes. The effect of this process is the creation of a stone
with a very tight crystalline structure and small but definite
porosity. Because of its structure, marble can take a very high
polish and is a very popular decorative stone for architectural and
sculptural uses. The limited porosity of marble, especially
polished marble, makes it less vulnerable to the leaching effects
of water. Calcium carbonate, however, of which marble is composed,
is highly susceptible to attack by acidic agents. Marble is
readily dissolved by acids, even very dilute acids, however the
actual results of acidic exposure will vary with the nature of the
acid. Chlorides, nitrates, sulfates and other chemical compounds
react differently with marble and produce various by-products,
which have a wide range of solubility and impact on the durability
of marble. For this reason, it is always important to determine
the exact type of pollutants causing marble deterioration.
Marble itself can be of two types, one composed of calcite and the
other of dolomite. Dolomitic marble is much more resistant to acid
attack than calcite marble. The color of marble ranges from the
brilliant white of calcite to black, including blue-gray, red,
yellow and green, depending upon the mineral composition.
TYPICAL USES
Marble has many decorative and structural uses. It is used for
outdoor sculpture as well as for sculpture bases; in architecture
it is used in exterior walls and veneers, flooring, decorative
features, stairways and walkways. The way in which the stone is
used may be a factor in limiting or controlling the severity of
exposure. The use or function of the marble may also affect the
feasibility of applying certain treatments, but type of use is not
the primary factor in the major types of deterioration and damage
to which marble is susceptible. | |  |  |  |  | |
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02-22-2008, 04:06 AM
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| Re: White Thesos The manufacturor claims that his product is water based and polymer based and it works wonders on all and i actually mean all type of natural stone and also on engineered stone. |
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