Stupid Question

Hey Guys, I'm glad to see you doing test I think this is very important in our business.


here is an important step to test.

Dress shoe's are leather on the bottom. These shoe's will always have sand trapped or lodge onto the bottom. kinda like sandpaper. 400 grit is what I have come up with. When you take this shoe X 100 more just like it then you will start to wear the floor down.

Test: Take a 400 grit hand lap pad, rub the surface with the pad, then try to stain a good impregnator should should still protect.


Way to go guys, glad to see you guys into this.

	grit GRIT SIZE: Applies to the size and number of particles per square inch which are used to determine the abrasiveness of sandpapers, grinding stones etc.

[Lou Noble]

PM me your info Jo and i will get this stuff out to you.

Eric,
That is a good idea, i never thought of that before. I guess its back to the lab for me. BTW: nice work on the 314P that is the best granite sealer around!! The 433P was a close second though...

	sealer Impregnation: This is commonly known as sealers. This is the first stage in preserving and maintaining your investment. This stage should occur ever six to eight months. There are three types of impregnation (solvent, water, silicone based), regardless to brand. This will stop most water base stains from occurring. It also will stop the stone from been damage beyond repair.

Originally Posted by Lou Noble

Eric,
That is a good idea, i never thought of that before. I guess its back to the lab for me. BTW: nice work on the 314P that is the best granite sealer around!! The 433P was a close second though...

Thats cool something nice about Eric. I should put you on the payroll.

lou, coming to Vegas.

[Lou Noble]

I planned on vegas but i am swamped with work right now... let me know if you find anything worth remembering.

[Anonymous]

This is exactly what I dreamt of last night!

[Lou Noble]

Now that the VOC laws have hit, what are you guys doing for sealers?

[Koessler]

Another important point to consider before sealing this marble countertop, is whether it is polished or honed.

Prosoco SLX 100 has been great for granite, slate, and other silica based materials. It has not been recommended for use on marble. I understand you can't get anything other than quarts in CA because of th VOC regulations.

I was just a GranQuartz today. I didn't know they had such a good sealer.

Has anyone tried SureSeal?

	sealer Impregnation: This is commonly known as sealers. This is the first stage in preserving and maintaining your investment. This stage should occur ever six to eight months. There are three types of impregnation (solvent, water, silicone based), regardless to brand. This will stop most water base stains from occurring. It also will stop the stone from been damage beyond repair.

	Marble MARBLE: CHARACTERISTICS This standard includes general information on the characteristics and common uses of marble and identifies typical problems associated with the material. INTRODUCTION Marble is an extremely hard, metamorphic stone composed of calcite (CaCO3). It is formed as a result of the recrystallization of limestone under the intense pressure and heat of geologic processes. The effect of this process is the creation of a stone with a very tight crystalline structure and small but definite porosity. Because of its structure, marble can take a very high polish and is a very popular decorative stone for architectural and sculptural uses. The limited porosity of marble, especially polished marble, makes it less vulnerable to the leaching effects of water. Calcium carbonate, however, of which marble is composed, is highly susceptible to attack by acidic agents. Marble is readily dissolved by acids, even very dilute acids, however the actual results of acidic exposure will vary with the nature of the acid. Chlorides, nitrates, sulfates and other chemical compounds react differently with marble and produce various by-products, which have a wide range of solubility and impact on the durability of marble. For this reason, it is always important to determine the exact type of pollutants causing marble deterioration. Marble itself can be of two types, one composed of calcite and the other of dolomite. Dolomitic marble is much more resistant to acid attack than calcite marble. The color of marble ranges from the brilliant white of calcite to black, including blue-gray, red, yellow and green, depending upon the mineral composition. TYPICAL USES Marble has many decorative and structural uses. It is used for outdoor sculpture as well as for sculpture bases; in architecture it is used in exterior walls and veneers, flooring, decorative features, stairways and walkways. The way in which the stone is used may be a factor in limiting or controlling the severity of exposure. The use or function of the marble may also affect the feasibility of applying certain treatments, but type of use is not the primary factor in the major types of deterioration and damage to which marble is susceptible.

[Lou Noble]

John, i tried sure seal on my counters( polished concrete) and it only lasted for about 3 weeks before even water was "staining"

In CA the only VOC compliant solvents worth using are from Stone Pro. My sealer that i reviewed in my other post is no longer legal to sell. Plus this stuff blows the doors off of my old sealer...

Note: SLX100 works great... but it makes the user sick. There are a couple other products out there that work the same or better without making you sick

	sealer Impregnation: This is commonly known as sealers. This is the first stage in preserving and maintaining your investment. This stage should occur ever six to eight months. There are three types of impregnation (solvent, water, silicone based), regardless to brand. This will stop most water base stains from occurring. It also will stop the stone from been damage beyond repair.

[Eric W]

Sure Seal isn't that a spray made for grout lines?

	grout GROUT The material used to fill in the joints between stone tile. Grout can be cement or plastic resins.

[Lou Noble]

I think so, that stuff sucks!!! When i was in Vegas last year the sales guy said that it was the best product out there and that it was changing the way poeple were doing jobs... so i took a can and that stuff sucked!!!