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02-05-2008, 07:56 PM
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| Marble shower walls Installing new marble tile w/ thin set on cement board in shower stall.Done w/ grout hassels, like the seamed look. Is it possible to silicone joints to keep the moisture out? getting mixed info.Thanks. |
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02-05-2008, 08:47 PM
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| Re: Marble shower walls Hi Jeff, Wecome to the NSRA Forum. Trash the silicone ideal and start thinking of filling the joints with a epoxy compound. Be patience, i'm sure very shortly you'll have all shorts of advice on which type to use from the members . BTW- What type of marble are you installing ? hone, polish, etc......
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02-06-2008, 01:02 AM
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| Re: Marble shower walls Thanks Hobo for your prompt reply, its a polished marble 12x12 tiles. Heard of an epoxy based grout, is this the same as your epoxy compound? any cleaning problems mold, mildew in the long run? |
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| Re: Marble shower walls I believe it a epoxy resin with a accelerator,but I'm not a installer that why i did not recommended a brand, i left it for guy's who has more knowledge in this area that would be able to help you. I can tell you if you install & seal your tiles properly and have proper ventilation, you should not have a mildew problem. also, it going to be very importance to use the proper cleaning agent's ( available NSRA on-line store ) and i would say re-seal it annually. Just my opinion....
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02-06-2008, 01:37 AM
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| Re: Marble shower walls use grout, period. where the horizontal surfaces meet the vertical (shower floor/wall, shower seat/floor) you want to use caulking to allow for some movement. using epoxy grout will be a nightmare. using epoxy resin can be done but will look like crap unless it is ground flush and filled with epoxy. getting into that youre talking rediculous amounts of money. stick with the nonsanded grout, just pick a nice color and it should look great. IMO anything else would be a foolish idea. youre only asking for problems in the long run. |
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02-06-2008, 01:44 AM
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| Re: Marble shower walls Thanks cheesedog for coming to the rescue.
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02-06-2008, 02:27 AM
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| Re: Marble shower walls Quote:
Originally Posted by cheesedog using epoxy grout will be a nightmare. using epoxy resin can be done but will look like crap unless it is ground flush and filled with epoxy. | Dog I have seen and done many jobs with epoxy grout that have been very successful, and I know a few installers that would take your statement as a insult. As always, if you go for the lowest bidder you will get the hacks. Epoxy grout is the best thing to use in a wet area, it is the most resistant to moisture, it is easy to clean, you do not have to worry about mold in your joints, you do not have to worry about the color changing and looking dingy. IMO using epoxy grout will save you money and time that is associated with typical non-sanded/sanded grout.
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| Re: Marble shower walls Wouldn't it be a better idea to use an epoxy type of setting adhesive too - like t2000 ? Some marbles will discolor with some thinsets as well as you want a moisture proof adhesive. You should also use a membrane under the tile for a waterproof install.
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02-06-2008, 11:41 AM
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| Re: Marble shower walls Good call Topshop!! Theres nothing worst then having a moisture problem behind your tiles especially in my part of the country.It Creates conducive condition for Subterranean & Formosan Termites not to mention Wood Fungi.
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02-06-2008, 01:28 PM
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| Re: Marble shower walls Thanks guys for all the info. I don't know where to start, more ''?'' Cheesedog I haven't ruled out grout 100% the instructions w/ marble states NOT to use nonsanded grout? How would that work w/ 1/16 grout line? sand scratches on polish? Any caulking type between pan & wall that won't grow fungus & discolor? Huligar any tips on epoxy grout? your post was encouraging! Topshop setting tiles w/ epoxy adhesive to the backer board sounds like a good idea, I'm not concerned about thinset discoloring the marble, but with moisture behind the tiles I am. I do plan on using a plastic vapor barrier between studs and cement board, will this be ok? Or will I get moisture buildup in the shower wall that abutts the outside of the house? |
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