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10-19-2008, 02:17 PM
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| how to make it shine? Alright I am what you would say a Do It All yourself handy man( around my house not for anyone else.) so here we go, I built some very nice cabinets and my wife decided she would like Granite so we go and pick out some granite from A World of Tile, they sell these 25 1/2 inch squares with a bull nose one them for about 15 bucks a square foot,the name of the granite is UBA TUBA. since I have not failed yet on all my jobs around the house, I can do it. Well I set the squares and they were flat and level and then over night some shifted. The tile guys said use these so I did ( thery were Alpha PVA marble polishing pads). they didnt work except the very coarse grit took down the lippage some but removed the high polished look. so I bought a 4" semi- rigid velcro backer and a set of 4 "Monster dry diamond polishing pads. ( i used them wet with a spray bottle) and things started to look promising things looking good feels softer and smooother after each pad well I get to my buff pad and use it and if feels smooth and soft but no high shine likr the other pices of counter top so I buy Tenax diamond granite polishing powder, and a 4" alpha felt pad and I go to town on this thing I tired useing the powder 3 times in the same little area and it does not get very high shine. Where did I go wrong???
I put my seams together with epoxy ( which was a nightmare ) cleaning up the epoxy.
I might have gone to fast on my RPMS on the grinder i didnt know what speed to go with and the amount of pressure to apply on the granite. I would like to learn how to do this correctly but I dont have a lot of money to fly out and take a two day class. ( it would be nice tho )
any feedback would be nice ( I have read a lot of things on the internet and everyone has their own epinion on what to do I want the right opinin
thanks Jim Koti e mail jkoti2000@yahoo.com  |  |  |  | | Marble | MARBLE: CHARACTERISTICS
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10-19-2008, 02:29 PM
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| Re: how to make it shine? Stop playing with this top, you need to treat it like a floor.
Get a 150 pound swing machine and go to town. I do not recommend you do this your self, but if you want to try go for it.
By the way good call on using the epoxy for the joints, I hope it was a real epoxy and not polyester that is some times call epoxy by mistake.
If you have any pictures of your top I would love to see it. |
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10-19-2008, 04:12 PM
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| Re: how to make it shine? Whew! I appreciate your fortitude in this project. Before you go along any further, I would take one of those tiles and practice on a test piece to get the process under control. Work with each grit slow rpms, lots of PSI and little water until you see no further improvement of each grit. Watch the scratch patterns of each grit very carefully and overlap. Check out Huligar's video and watch the method carefully. Patience is key.
You might find that taking the class would have saved you a huge amount of time and investment. |
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10-20-2008, 12:33 PM
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| Re: how to make it shine? Top polishing is not a task for the do it yourselfer. Pay a professional to do it right. Hopefully you did not destroy the stone in the process. |
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10-21-2008, 03:36 AM
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| Re: how to make it shine? professionals in my area are what you would you say are expensive peices of crap, I called and talked to the top three adn they all told me you can not get the factory finish back to 100% you can get it close, But I know Huligar can Ive seen his videos and they his seams adn top polishing is better that the factory! nice shine, If only you guys had pros from the NSRA you would make a killing out here because yours is the best because you know what gets the job done. out here people are ignorant and dont know what looks good they just settle for what they paid for .
I will go with huligars attitude anything with stone you can fix, just takes time, patients, and a little bit of money. anything is possible not improbable
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10-21-2008, 03:45 AM
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| Re: how to make it shine? oh my, what have you done?
It is time to turn this job over to a pro. |
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10-21-2008, 04:05 AM
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| Re: how to make it shine? $1,200-1,500 my guess to fix that with regional driving time added. |
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10-21-2008, 04:44 AM
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| Re: how to make it shine? you're fired. and
you forgot the sink |
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10-21-2008, 12:04 PM
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| Re: how to make it shine? You are correct that the polish can be made to be new or better. Some times if a piece of stone is so destroyed it is not worth the cost to fix. I am sorry to say this but it is my opinion that at this point your best bet is to tear out and replace that mess you made. |
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10-21-2008, 12:14 PM
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