Hartzstone LLC, Edward Hartz = Bad business

[Huligar]

David, that may be the reason why he wants glenn to remove this post.

[hoboal]

When your pears start losing confidence in you or your company.Two things needs to happen. Either change your ways, or close your doors..... In Ed's case, it seem easier to try to sell his business other then doing the right thing.

[Topshop]

That's why he started writing articals in trade papers.

When (2) of the large companies I worked as an engineer for were for sale they started getting into being published in trade papers and some books for their manufacturing processes. It is a ploy to make a company look better or more knowledgable then they really are to bring up the value of the company. He is doing whatever he can to make himself look good on paper but it will not help a bad rep.

[glenn k]

Sorry for the late reply. Been busy on a big job and have another right after for next week.

As far as Ed Hartz of Hartzstone, he is still outstanding on money owed. Jo, a lawsuit cannot be filed against a public forum with facts presented. I have all paperwork to take him to court, and if necessary, all parties involved in this incident will be involved. I have e-mails stating his lies about the completion of this job. After he did not want to comply and pay his bill, I contacted the cruise liner and found that he did not complete his side of the job he was contracted to do. The contact person of the cruiseliner stated that they will deal with him.

To summarize, I find that Ed Hartz does not have any good work ethics, knowledge to the restoration for stone, and responsiblities to run a business. In my opinion, I think he is selling his business to try and get out before it gets worse for him, or maybe before other lawsuits are filed against his business.
I feel bad for anyone that takes over his headaches, by buying his business.

The only reason he continues to be in business is because of the fluff created by write-ups in a magazine, and paying for advertisements on google. I may also add, that after reading his bad grammatical structured e-mails, he had paid someone else to write those articles. This guy has no talent other than ripping off people. You should have seen what he wanted to charge for such repairs.

I also want to add, that if anyone would like further information to contact his former unhappy customer, to PM me for details. But I think this thread has said enough about his bad business.

Jo, If he gives anymore trouble, I will scan and post documented facts of outstanding payment due. I will also continue to add more information as the time allows. To think that these postings would have been started if he had paid off his balance (in cash as he promised before work was done) instead of giving a company check which was no good. When I talked to one of my attorneys about this matter, this type of transaction (false payment) is a criminal offense.

[FLF82]

He called my parents granite shop looking for me. One of the sale rep gave him my cell number. He is yet to call me. Man I'm terrified.

[Topshop]

That's it your in for it now.

He must be looking for a job. Do you have anything in the vacuum arts available? Maybe mud bucket boy? Piss boy?

[Huligar]

I had a great laugh this very morning and it is only right I share it with the rest of you guys. I have high light some of the funny parts.

Very unprofessional Huligar.

Who put you in charge to judge others?

By allowing others to write about me and my company on your "Alliance" program, you only belittle yourselves.
You have no Class to express yourselves in this manner.
One of the most salient features of our culture and your culture, whatever that may be is that there is so much bullshit. Hey did anyone ever tell you that jealousy is not a good quality for a human?

You all have nothing better to do than to stroke yourselves with gossip. Maybe you have too much time on your hands? Or perhaps you are all crazy? Or perhaps you are just bored with life. For if you had reverence for it, you would not have the energy to be destructive. Sorry, I do not men to be sarcastic. really, I am sorry for that.


Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain --- and most fools do.

As for your other comments "on line" (comments you might not make if you had a civil conversation with me or listened to how things really did happen with regard to a persons' health, feelings or predicament); why don't you make them to me personally? You appear to be very insecure and discontent to go out of your way to tarnish or try and hurt me or my reputation with your writing online.

Content makes poor men rich; discontent makes rich men poor!

So back to the bullshit. Identifying and combating what can be regarded as insidiously disruptive forms of "nonsense."

I do not want to be hurtful in any way. I am sorry that you really do not know me. Or that you know what this is really all about. I would be glad to sit down with you and your friends to discuss this. Who needs an attorney?

I am caring and strong enough to ask you; can we get together and clear this up? This would be the right thing to do. I do not care to fight this out. I want to explain to your friend Glen what happened and why, and then how we can go on to make things better instead of worse. Life is too short to hurt others intentionally.

Thank you for your considerations,

Ed Hartz

Hartz, I know you read this post, so why email me and not just post here or get someone else to write for you. You and I will never compete for a customer and you would never meet any of my customers so why do I need to be jealous of you. I have seen your work, I have fixed your work. you and I are not in the same world, you get your work by telling people what they want to hear, and than when things do not work out you give them some lame reason why it did not. we on the other hand, tell them just what they need to know and than give them more than they could have ever asked for.

You and others like you is what makes it so hard for a real pro to find work, you are also the reason people have a hard time trusting us, you also the reason why this alliance had to be created in the first place.

You are great when it comes to marketing unlike the most of us. You suck when it comes to doing the work or knowing what needs to done.

I do not need to sit down with you, I do not need to speak to you, I do not need to remove this post, but you do need to clear this up with the person you did this to and the starter of this post. Do the right thing and talk it out with glen on this post in the eyes of the industry. You asked who made me the judge. I am not the judge but I will be part of the jury.

[Topshop]

Ed,

Just do the right thing and pay Glenn what is owed him for his work. You may be starting to realize that we are a tight knit group here and look out for each other. You mess with one of us and you mess with all of us. Glenn is great at what he does and does not take on things he knows he shouldn't. As Clint said "A man's gotta to know his limitations". Know your limitations and do not make promises you cannot keep. It only takes one promise breaker to make our whole industry look bad. You are proving to be a promise breaker. Stop making my industry look bad.

P.S. we are here if you want to explain your side of the story. I would love to hear it.

[Huligar]

Keeping you all up to date.
After making the post yesterday I email Ed, and here is what I had to say.

Here is my response to your email
http://www.nsraweb.com/forums/consum...ness-9152.html (Hartzstone LLC, Edward Hartz = Bad business)

At the end of this month, the nsra blog network will be finish with
over 372 blogs. I now feel that glen can write the first blog, I can
only image what and who it is going to be about. But if you and him
does not clear this up and he does blog about you, I will not stop
him. If he gives it the same title or one close to the one he has now
or even link to his post. I can tell you now, the top 6 out 10 on the google
front page will be from the network.

All that I am telling you is, you have a few day to do right, and that
I am the last person you should be talking to.

I do not like bullies and I am the last person you are anyone should
ever make a treat to. That was the last mistake and you can never come
back from that; that is why it is all in the public eye. It is now
your move, you have the time frame of what is going to happen, you
know what is going to happen, you have the man money, you know he did
the work, you know you did him wrong. be a man and do what is write.

Today I got a very short and simple email from ED

Thank you for your note the other day.

I will think about what you said, then get in touch with you and Glen. I do not have his contact info. Can you forward this to me?

Thanks.

Ed Hartz

What do he need to think about?
I sent him this link Advanced Stone Restoration*-*Advanced Stone Restoration so he can get any and all the information that he may need.

[glenn k]

FYI, have not received any contact via telephone, e-mail, or by my website yet. But this is getting interesting.